I have recently been doing some research in to the archaeological finds relating to Rennes-les-Bains. You can read about it HERE & HERE. I have been perplexed by some of the statements of the amateur historians. Of course these may be simple errors or misunderstandings on their part. But whereas before i was inclined to think historians were talking of the same object, but after consideration they may be referring to two different objects. Anyway, i'll put my thoughts here and you can decide for yourself!
The earliest reference to the so-called Pompeius stone of Rennes-les-Bains is by the historian Catel. This would have been some time before 1626. Catel had written regarding this stone - "... and seen in the church of the place mentioned, les Bains de Rennes, an ancient Roman inscription, recovered from ancient foundations near the source, C. POMPEIVS QVARTVS PAM SVO.' He quite clearly says that this Roman inscription stone was found in the ancient foundations of a fountain source. There are no references, measurements or further information. We assume he was told of the existence of the stone by his many contacts.
The next time this inscription is encountered it is from the work of G Lafont.
The extract says: l'eglise de rennes les bains aurait ete transporte, d'apres G. Lafont, an bandeau (haut 0.40m. o30m) portant l'inscription 2. C. Pompeius ..... (L)IBENS A(NIMO) M(ARTI)/ SUO.
C.POMPEIUS QUARTUS , d'un coeur reconnaissant, au dieu Mars SUUS - sur la face opposee une branche de laurier ...
It is found under the heading of "Inscriptions that were once at Narbonne, that have been taken out of the Narbonnais area", and we find that .... To the church at Rennes les Bains was transported, according to G. Lafont, a "bandeau" ( haut. 0.40 m: larg. 0.30m = 40 cm high x 30 cm wide ) bearing this inscription :
C. Pompeius / Quartus / etc etc dedicated to Mars . ...you know the one i mean, with a branch of laurel on the reverse side".
Now a 'bandeau' is interpreted to mean a decorative headband; head bandage or a banner of some sort. It does not fit the description or in actual fact the image we have of the Pompeius stone! At least though, Lafont gives us some measurements - this 'banner' is 0.40m in height and 0.30m in width. And the inscription is interpreted as an offering to the god Mars....
Chronologically it is Louis Fédié who next mentions the Pompeius stone. It is in 1880, in his work called ' Le Comté de Razès et le diocèse d'Alet, notices historiques (Carcassonne: Lajaux Frères). He says
'Nous ferons remarquer qu'il ya une grande similitude entre cette inscription et celle qui figure sur une plaque de grès découverte aux Bains de Rennes, il ya plus d'un siècle, dans un pan de vieux mur avoisinant la source de la Reine." So for him, this stone was found at the Souce de La Reine",
.... which is also that which Boudet believed.
Then in 1892 Sacaze publishes his Les inscriptions antiques des Pyrénées, (Toulouse). He writes, in relation to this stone, 'White marble memorial stone that could be seen in the church of Rennes-les-Bains when Catel wrote his Memoires de l'Histoire de Languedoc, it had been taken, he tells us, from the ancient buildings that surrounded the source, first brought to the castle of Vivier, around 1760, after it was donated to the Museum by Mr. Montagnas to the Museum of Perpignan. On the face opposite to that engraved is represented very coarsely a laurel branch. Height: 47 cm, width: 33.5 cm, width: 16 cm."
Sacaze references his statements with PUIGGARI in 1832 - who thought originally that this stone came from Catllar, near Prades.
We then of course see the Priory of Sion manipulation.
The bottom line is that this stone is important because Abbe Delmas linked it to a Great Roman burial - which has somehow been appropriated by Henri Boudet as well as the Priory of Sion! The questions is; Why?
While perusing some old articles in the SESA archives on line at Gallica i came across a monograph written by Dr Paul Courrent on Rennes-les-Bains [see HERE]. Right at the end of the monograph Courrent is referring to the the marriage of Marie de Negri - and he seems to supply a copy of the signatures of those who 'celebrated' her wedding. Listed as a witness is Cure Bigou. Any translation of the end of the document would be gratefully received.
The same Round table discussion as reported in the entry below this post, but this interpretation of the events is found on the site of Johan Netchacovitch at http://www.portail-rennes-le-chateau.com/gazette/ (and has been translated to give a flavour of the proceedings).
Table ronde sur le thème : Rennes-le-Château aujourd'hui. Dédut de la conférence :
- Paul Saussez: Its very probable that the crypt housing the tomb of the Lords was reported in an old parish register. Archaeologists have been approached to conduct further research - the [plans?] were given to the town of Rennes-le-Château. This is the first step if it is to be endorsed by the municipality & will be finalized by a request for excavations properly. The administration show reticence for various reasons. Some fear a sudden change in the tourism and real estate in the region.
- Jean-Alain Sipra: The original church of Rennes-le-Château is paleo-Christian and was built around the year 400. Originally, it was two or three meters in length. He also returns to his discovery of aerial photos detecting the remains of a very large mausoleum of Constantine[? or Constantinian-type mausoleum] in the vicinity of Rennes-le-Château. Emperor Constantine would have had to build the mausoleum of a similar size to the Pantheon in Rome, before the Council of Nicaea in the year 325. Referring to his book published in 2012 (The Way of Bugarach - ODS) he reiterates his assumption that Boudet and his mentor Vincentian Abbe Jourde discovered in Bugarach a shrine housing the tombs of Jesus, Mary- Madeleine and their children as well as graves of Visigoth kings.
- Alexandre Painco: The number of visitors to the area is a constant number. The council has decided to work with the DRAC on serious research requests. His office of mayor requires him to keep a cool head in light of various ideas advanced by some researchers.
- Laurent Buchholtzer (aka Octonovo) talked about his investigation into the trafficking of Masses organized by a local Catholic network of which Berenger Sauniere would have been a part of (ref. Rennes-le-Chateau, a paradoxical history - ODS). Christian Doumergue concluded that it might be the Catholic Circle of Narbonne. Laurent Buchholtzer continued with his interest in the archives of the Marquis de Chefdebien. The rallying cry of the Circle of Narbonne was "By this sign thou shall conquer." Relations between Boudet / Gelis and Sauniere remain unclear as documents missing.
- Jean-Alain Sipra - Saunière made a part of the treasure, and would have kept for him.
- Philippe Marlin returns to the Priory of Sion & Pierre Plantard.
- Laurent Buchholzter does not consider Pierre Plantard as a great initiate contrary to the thesis developed by Christian Doumergue but rather as a forger.
- Stephanie Buttageg: A Brother Dubosc mentioned (to 1780/1782 ) in the National Archives in Paris the presence of a round temple near the mines of Roque Negro (Rennes-les-Bains). The Marquis de Fleury, owner of the sources of the nearby hot water would not have allowed exploration to the mines (see his recent book - The ancient legendary Mines of Rennes-les-Bains). Pierre Plantard himself would have done research and very discreetly had acquired plots of land in the area in 1966 (No. 647/658) located near Camp Redon. Note, these acquisitions were made a year before the publication of the book by Gerard de Sede. Likewise, he planned to buy a house in Rennes-les-Bains and a perpetual cemetery plot which confirms his willingness to end his days there. Proof for Stephanie Buttageg that the approach of Pierre Plantard is not reduced to a simple mythomania but a desire to continue his research and his certainty of the existence of the Round Temple and mining of precious metals.
- Philippe Marlin addresses the delicate issue of the transfer of the tomb of Saunière which has aroused strong emotions. Alexander Painco confirms that the procedure is still in progress and genealogical research is conducted to find all the heirs of Saunière. The tomb is private property. The mayor does not have the right to maintain it, which explains the state of desolation in which the tomb is today.
Finally. Jean-Alain Sipra shows a model of the Constantinian mausoleum restored by him whose remains are still visible from the air. A last question: it is there a treasure of Rennes-le-Château?Answer: Yes, and more ..
Points to raise....
1] The assumption that Boudet and his mentor Vincentian Abbe Jourde discovered in Bugarach a shrine housing the tombs of Jesus, Mary- Madeleine and their children as well as graves of Visigoth kings!!!!
2] Pierre Plantard himself would have done research and very discreetly acquired plots of land in the area in 1966 (No. 647/658) located near Camp Redon. There is a place in the municipality of Rennes-les-Bains on the Cadastre map cited as Camp Redon which is under Roque Negre along the Salz.
You can read the original French HERE for your own translation. Thanks to Johan. Apologies for any glaring errors i might have made!
From the following website: http://lebibliothecaire.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/une-belle-table-ronde-sur-la-colline.html the following is reported:
An evening at Rennes-le-Chateau
Paul Saussez gave an update on the excavation project for the excavation of the crypt of the church at Rennes-le-Chateau. He recognized that the path ahead will be difficult. For now, he is to make preliminary studies of the heritage of the church and its environs using professional archaeologists, before starting the actual excavation. The implementation of the project will be long (about two years) and presupposes the raising of financing. The preliminary studies (and only them) represent a budget of €20,000.
Octonovo gave an update of his financial research. After Christian Doumergue highlighted the Catholic Circle of Narbonne, he told us he was now on the trail of another association / platform which Sauniere was involved in. He then rebelled against the latest thesis which seems to be in fashion - that of Pierre Plantard being seen as a great initiate. He said that in esoteric scholarly circles, the evocation of the Priory of Sion generally triggered a burst of laughter and the comment that it was "A bogus organization that has never produced anything other than forgeries."
Jean-Alain Sipra considered the real enigma of Sauniere and traces the path that led him to locate, from "True Celtic Language", a sacred tomb in Bugarach. He also reminded us of previous research, based on aerial photographs, which enabled him to identify the location of a Constantinian mausoleum at the foot of the hill. He presents a model that he has produced
Stephanie Buttegeg told us about her recent research on the mining at RLB including the supposed "Circular Temple" to be located in Roc Negro. Without formal proofs, the documents she found in the National Archives provide a body of evidence converging with certain statements of Pierre Plantard.
Alexander Painco finally recounts his memories of youth "in the country" and regrets the controversy raised by the recent exhibition on Pierre Plantard and the Priory of Sion in the Museum at Rennes. He promotes freedom of expression. Finally he returns to the matter of "transfer of the Tomb of the Abbot Saunière" . He favored the recovery of the remains of the priest to the cemetery and said that the mausoleum, now in the area of private property. It belongs to the Ribes family that do not provide maintenance when it is their responsibility and not that of the municipality.
The evening had a happy ending by the traditional question "Is there still a mystery at Rennes-le-Chateau", a question which participants respond with a unanimous "yes".
Thursday, August 29 at 21 am at the inn of the Bishopric in Alet-les-Bains, Henry Lincoln will speak in ENGLISH on: Reflections on the words of Jean-Luc Robin, "Rennes-le-Chateau, a place dream ". He will also comment on the translation he has completed of Gerard de Sede's book "L'Or de Rennes", highlighting a number of interesting points in the writing of this book. The book will be available on site.
Lets cut to the chase. We probably would not be discussing the idea of the Seventh Legion and Rennes-les-Bains if it were not for Pierre Plantard and Philippe de Chérisey. This is because these members of the infamous Priory of Sion released pamphlets that made obscure references to Septimania and a Grand Roman in relation to Rennes-les-Bains. Why would these ideas be related to the enigmatic mystery of Rennes le-Château and Bérenger Saunière? Both Plantard and Chérisey talked about this, showing that in this instance at least, they were singing from the same hymn sheet. So what did they say?
Read the first part HERE
This monograph composed by Dr Paul Courrent is fascinating. He discusses the various information's available at the time which put together a learned scenario regarding the antiquity of Rennes-les-Bains. He talks of the opus written by the priest Delmas and other amateur historians and in his discussions we can see the root of most of the information that Chérisey uses in some of his Priory propaganda, especially the pamphlet called ''In the Country of the White Queen'. We must surely assume that Henri Boudet was also aware of all the archaeological discoveries because 1) he found several artifacts which he gave to his friends, and 2) in his book La Vrai Langue Celtique he has a chapter called "LES ROMAINS ET LA SOURCE THERMALE DE LA REINE".
Read more HERE
The Sack of Rome occurred on August 24, 410. The city was attacked by the Visigoths, led by Alaric I. At that time, Rome was no longer the capital of the Western Roman Empire, replaced in this position initially by Mediolanum and then later Ravenna. Nevertheless, the city of Rome retained a paramount position as "the eternal city" and a spiritual center of the Empire. The sack was to prove a major shock to contemporaries, friends and foes of the Empire alike.
This was the first time in almost 800 years that Rome had fallen to an enemy. The previous sack of Rome had been accomplished by the Gauls under their leader Brennus in 387 BC. The sacking of 410 is seen as a major landmark in the fall of the Western Roman Empire. St. Jerome, living in Bethlehem at the time, wrote that "The City which had taken the whole world was itself taken."
Update 13th August 2013: it seems some kind of verification of the window at Saint Sulpice and its replacement around 1900 [as discussed by Cherisey in CIRCUIT and reported in the my article HERE] is found HERE. With thanks to Tingra for the heads up!
It is a fascinating article about the 'inspiration of Philippe de Chérisey'. One wonders how Philippe de Chérisey found out about these little snippets of information!
Provided at the website are pictures of the extract from newspapers which reported the smashing of the window at Saint Sulpice!
Have archaeologists found any vestiges of a necropolis (like the one pictured above) in the vicinity of Rennes le-Château? After all, many posit that the ancient Rhedae housed upwards of 30,000 inhabitants during the visigothic dominated era of our times. The above picture shows a lost city - a city that has not been located yet (in Spain) but archaeologists know it was there because of this vast necropolis of Vicálvaro which remains.
So, if ancient Rhedae was a vast 'lost city' of 30,000 inhabitants where is its own vast necropolis? Read HERE
There is an open letter here from Paul Rouelle the Secrétaire Général de l'APARC. Its an open letter to Christian Doumergue regarding his latest book. While it is a shame that a war of words has developed its interesting what Rouelle has to say. He claims that "he and Philippe de Chérisey inspired Gérard de Sède to write "La Race Fabuleuse" as a satire against Plantard who, by then, had persuaded himself that he was descended not only from the Merovingians, but from Jesus Christ himself".
And you thought you knew everything there was to know about the Rennes-le-Chateau story .....
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My name is Sandy Hamblett, inspired and passionate researcher of the mysteries at Rennes-les-Bains.