I hope i dont get into trouble re: copyright .... these pics are from the book by Riviere & Boumendil about RLB.
Riviere & Boumendil label this the Capitolium (Temple) at RLB to the south of the village, dedicated to Jupiter, Junon and Minerve. Riviere & Boumendil suggest that the temple existed with colonnades (columns) which were integrated into the south terrace area. This terrace was referred to and is next to the Maison Chaluleau. However, i do not know whether Riviere & Boumendil are basing their comments on the work of archaeologists.
It is also suggested that the RLB church was originally a Constantinienne church which replaced a pagan temple. Is this the route of the writings in Boudet's book? And what does it mean? That the church was built by someone from the Constantine family or was it built in the manner of the 'style' of a Constantinienne church?
The Capitolium is marked 2. Smack bang right next to Maison Chaluleau and on the Terrace . The Forum is marked 3 - i.e. the place of the deux rennes .... 7 is the village church, which apparently have ancient walls that have been reused - but from where? The temple? 6 is marked as the ancient castrum .... where is found a large hole - circular and which has a well, dug in the ground to reach the underground aquifer ....
So, does this illustrate more about the quote in Cherisey's novel CIRCUIT - "Dans sa maison de campagne au bord d’une ancienne voie romaine, Anne passe la dernière semaine des vacances".
Cherisey has moved back in time to the Roman life of the village? The soldiers (10th/7th legion) marching up the roman way - IE the principle axis - to the Capitolium. Is the 'scene' metaphorical - and just refers to the veteran soldiers who settled in the area? Or did an important Roman live in the area? I dont understand why the small village of Rennes-les-Bains - which was essentially a spa resort - would have had a fully active army marching through - when we know it was veteran land, i.e soldiers that had retired to the area.
At the end of the paragraph in CIRCUIT is the admonition 'HOC SIGNO ISTUM VINCES'. One wonders if it is the Emperor Constant which is the Grand Roman as it is said that a Constantinienne church replaced a pagan temple at Rennes-les-Bains.
I will also add that in the Riviere & Boumendil book he writes that the central place, the place which was the centre of the village, i.e the Forum has:
"ancient burials [which] were placed there [aperture] when working under the big square [grand place/Forum]"
Does this mean when the ancient Romans built the south end of the village - they placed burials there - or that there were more ancient burials underneath that *they* found? Is this Cherisey's necropolis then?
For those who want to read more about this you can buy the book HERE
At Flamand, the bookseller barber of Rennes-les Bains, well into the day, the rain has now ceased. Flamand is cutting Charlot's hair and giving Marie-Madeleine a shampoo, moving from one to the other.....
Spot the point of interest in this postcard:
This blurb came on the back of a postcard showing maison Chaluleau at Rennes-les-Bains ...
There have been some interesting discussions HERE regarding some reported archaeological finds in the nineteenth century by local people at Rennes-les-Bains. They were reported via an article called "NOTICE HISTORIQUE sur les Bains de Rennes ,connus anciennement sous le nom de BAINS DE MONTFERRAND" de Dr Paul Courrent [see HERE]:
Courrent reported that:
[…] M. Marius CATHALA, le savant archéologue et paléontologiste, ancien président de la Société 'Etudes scientifiques de l'Aude, croit personnellement à l'existence de la statue à laquelle appartenait la main à l'oeuf. Il situe même la présence de cette statue dans l'hôtel meublé CHALULEAU, à Rennes-les-Bains, au milieu d'une cour extérieure, où des sondages pratiqués par lui-même, ont amené de la poussière de marbre qu'il croit venir de cette statue. Nous désirons que le propriétaire de cet hôtel ne continue pas à s'opposer à toute recherche. Combien il serait intéressant, s'il est vrai que la statue existe, de la mettre au jour et de l'édifier sur la place de notre station! L'hôtel Chaluleau semble d'ailleurs bâti sur des substructions fort anciennes. Des réparations opérées dans cette maison en 1928, ont fait découvrir des fondations à gros blocs que M. ROUZAUD, ancien président de la Commission archéologique de Narbonne, attribue à d'anciens édifices romains, temples ou palais […]
"Marius CATHALA, the learned archaeologist and paleontologist, former president of the Society of scientific studies of the Aude, personally believes in the existence of [a larger] statue which [belonged] to the hand with the egg. The same [type of statue] was found in the furnished hotel Chaluleau at Rennes-les-Bains, in the middle of an outdoor courtyard, where opinions thought that the marble dust came from this statue. We wish that the owner of the hotel does not continue to oppose any research. How interesting it would be if it is true that [and?] we could uncover the statue and build on the place of our resort! The hotel Chaluleau seems to be built on very old substructures. Repairs carried out in this house in 1928, showed the foundations - in large blocks - that Mr. ROUZAUD, former president of the Archaeological Survey of Narbonne, attributed to ancient Roman buildings, temples and palaces....."
The interest for those fascinated by the 'mystery at Rennes-les-Bains' is the assertion that an archaeologist thought the old substructures could be Roman, perhaps a Temple or palace .... As Rennes-les-Bain carries a folklore tale that there is a mysterious Temple to be found at Rennes-les-Bains and its vicinity the location of Chaluleau is of interest. I found some old postcards showing its location (they call it a Hotel) and i have tried to match it to the local village today. I think i have located Maison Chaluleau - in fact, i have actually been inside this house. It is/was for sale and the owner show myself and Rene Barnett inside. We also went out into the courtyard. If i have the right house, at the time i was inside the house i did not realise it was Chalaleau!
[The postcards are borrowed from the following website: http://www.delcampe.net for research purposes only].
"show me where there is evidence that people thought Sauniere found a treasure pre-Corbu and Plantard et al'
HERE Paul Smith lists the 'misconception's' regarding the idea of Sauniere finding a treasure instead of the bald fact that he made his money selling masses.
I always remember several people saying to the 'believers' - "show me where there is evidence that people thought Sauniere found a treasure pre-Corbu and Plantard et al'. And so Paul says "A recently-discovered story that the villagers of Rennes-le-Château during the 1930s believed Bérenger Saunière discovered a treasure was found in Jean Girou's book L’Itinéraire en Terre d’Aude (1936, page 169). Describing a visit to Rennes-le-Château, he wrote: “... we see villas and towers with verandahs, which are new and modern and which form a strange contrast with the ruins. This is the house of a priest who built these sumptuous living-quarters with the money from a discovered treasure – or so the locals say anyway!"
So the evidence is supplied and then this is what the responses are: "Jean Girou himself did not believe the story as shown by his reaction to it. But it is nevertheless an extremely interesting account because it shows how quickly a mystique began developing around Saunière's activities after his death".
How is that for bias? Dismissed totally with the comment 'Girou himself didnt believe it?' How can one come to that assumption just because Girou said 'or so the locals thought anyway"? Is he not just reporting what the locals thought?
I think it is called 'moving the goal posts'. This report in a published book about the Aude area says that villagers of Rennes-le-Chateau thought Sauniere had found some kind of 'treasure'. So evidence has been found of treasure stories pre-Corbu and Plantard. Probably the same 'stories' that led Corbu to go and investigate Rennes-le-Chateau for himself maybe?
In remembering that fantastic story, the Holy Blood & the Holy Grail, and an exercise in 'everything is connected' ...
1) Francois Berenger Sauniere, Catholic French priest, born 11 April 1852 in Montazels and died on 22 January 1917 in Rennes-le-Château.
2) Bishop Felix Arsène Billard - French Catholic Bishop of Carcassonne from 1881 to his death December 3, 1901. Linked to Henri-Marie-Gaston Bonnechose - a cardinal who himself appointed as his Vicar General Monsignor Billard, in his former diocese in Carcassonne. After this appointment, the old Cardinal, more than eighty years, will return twice to Carcassonne, in 1881 and 1882 before dying in 1883. Monsignor Billard continued his work ... Two years later, on June 1, 1885, Billard will appoint Bérenger Saunière, priest of Rennes-le-Château.
3) Bishop of Carcassonne Paul-Félix Arsène Billard then appointed Saunière as professor at the seminary of Narbonne.
4) It was François Fouquet who opened the seminary of the diocese of Narbonne - and he instructed it to be under the direction of the Vincentians .
5) The Fouquet family, beginning with Francis IV, the father of the Archbishop of Narbonne [François] and the Superintendent of Finances [Nicolas] was very close to St Vincent de Paul. St Vincent de Paul has a very murky mysterious history which is almost unbelievable. He is linked by the Priory of Sion to the Hautpoul family.
6) Nicolas Fouquet, famous brother of François Fouquet - Marquis de Belle-Île , Viscount of Melun and Vaux , born in January 1615 in Paris, died on March 23, 1680 in Pinerolo, is superintendent of finances at the time of Mazarin, Attorney General at the Parliament of Paris. He had a considerable power and fortune. Promoter of the arts in the best sense of the term, Nicolas Fouquet knew how to attract the most brilliant poets and scholars. Fouquet founded a salon in Saint-Mande at the end of the Fronde. It attracts Paul Pellisson, Charles Perrault, Quinault, La Fontaine and Madame de Sevigne. He also frequents scientists like the doctor Samuel Sorbiere or philosopher La Mothe Le Vayer . As early as 1660, he became interested in Molière . He was protector of the painter Nicolas Poussin. Alot of these names surface in the Lincoln et al opus.
7) François Fouquet had planned to establish a seminary in Limoux , as well as a home for missionaries in the Lower Razes at Our Lady of Marceille.
8) As was Mr. Vincent, Francois was part of the company of the Blessed Sacrament. The Company of the Blessed Sacrament was a Catholic secret society founded in 1630 by Henri de Levis. The Society has counted among its members many outstanding personalities of the seventeenth century:
9) The house Levis, better known under the name of Lévis-Mirepoix is a French noble family from the village of Lévis (currently Lévis-Saint-Nom in Yvelines), known since the twelfth century as a vassal of the Lords of Montfort l'Amaury. After the award of the lordship of Mirepoix by Simon de Montfort in Gui I of Lévis following his participation in the Albigensian Crusade in the thirteenth century, it became a powerful family of lords of the Languedoc . They counted up to eleven branches, six of which have acceded to the ducal dignity under the old regime. Ten of them are now extinct, all the ducal branches. The only remaining one of Léran, who took over the name of Lévis-Mirepoix.
Like most great houses of Ile-de-France, the Levis trace their origins to the mythical companion of Clovis. There is probably kinship between Amaury de Montfort II, living in 1028 , and Milo of Chevreuse, living in 1029 . Moreover we note in these three houses of Montfort l'Amaury, Chevreuse, and Lévis, contemporary adoption, followed by the names Gui, Simon and Philip .
10) William of Hainault, the first lord of Montfort l'Amaury - his great grandson was Amaury III, who died in 1137, whose sister was Bertada de Montfort. Amaury III married in 1115 Richilde of Hainault, daughter of Baldwin II, Count of Hainaut and Ide de Louvain. Baldwin himself had married in 1084 Ide de Louvain († 1139), daughter of Henry II, Count of Leuven. Henry II's son was Godfrey I of Leuven whose ancestry goes back to Gothelo (or Gozelo) (c. 967 – 19 April 1044), called the Great, who was the duke of Lower Lorraine from 1023 and of Upper Lorraine from 1033. A son of gGthelo [Godfrey III] married Doda, whose daughter was Ida of Lorraine (also referred to as Blessed Ida of Boulogne). In 1049, she married Eustace II, Count of Boulogne. They had three sons:
11) The Amaury family archives are said by some to have been seen by Cholet and that Cholet had studied the archives of the last surviving line of the Monfort-l'Amaury's. These archives allegedly mention some papers in another castle (Montfort-Amaury - heirs of Simon de Montfort). These papers showed maps and some hiding [places] within the church of Rennes-le-Chateau. Simon IV (or V) of Montfort (between 1164 and 1175 - 25 June 1218 , Toulouse ), lord of Montfort l'Amaury from 1188 to 1218, the Earl of Leicester in 1204, Viscount of Albi, Béziers and Carcassonne from 1213 to 1218, Count of Toulouse from 1215 to 1218, is the leading figure in the crusade against the Albigensians. Simon de Montfort joins the crusade, followed by several neighboring barons, Guy de Lévis. This Guy is Lord of Mirepoix and Marshal of faith became famous during the Albigensian Crusade as his lord lieutenant of Simon IV de Montfort. The house Levis, better known under the name of Lévis-Mirepoix is a French noble family from the village of Lévis (currently Lévis-Saint-Nom in Yvelines, as we saw above), known since the twelfth century as a vassal of the Lords of Montfort l'Amaury. After the award of the lordship of Mirepoix by Simon de Montfort to Gui I of Lévis following his participation in the Albigensian Crusade in the thirteenth century, the family became a powerful lords of the Languedoc.
I could go on but i wont. One has to wonder if ANY of these events have anything to do with each other throughout history? We think of them as all separate and unconnected events in any way. But with the same names cropping up over and over .... one wonders!
Be that as it may, Lincoln et al certainly thought these events made a good story!
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My name is Sandy Hamblett, inspired and passionate researcher of the mysteries at Rennes-les-Bains.